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June 16th, 2012, 10:12 am

Supario

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oh man. suddenly everything started to go all fucked up over here - again.

but i'm doing my best to deliver new pages for you!

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June 16th, 2012, 2:32 pm

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Just wanted to say that I really like your art style. I love the more sketchy feel, but it is still all very well defined. I also really like that it isn't in colour - I like colour, but the brown (is it called sepia?) works really well here.

About the plot; I like the start, but I really needed to look up the characters info to understand what is going on. But I think my confusion has more to do with that this is just the start of your comic and it is a webcomic thus you can't just read the entire first chapter in one go. So my confusion about the world etc in no way reflects on your story telling, because that is quite good and clear.

Reading a webcomic - esp. one you pretty much started reading from the get go - is just such a different experience than reading a paperversion, both have their plus & negative points. But I really do think that so far this webcomic is smashing :)

Only one question though, why aren't there any women in this comic? In various of the character's bio's you mention mothers, but then there are no actual female characters in the comic itself. And the one character I thought was a woman turns out to be a man and I can't really figure out why he needed to be a man. I could understand if you didn't neccesarily want to make the "mother hen" a woman to try and break stereotypes and that you wanted to add a transvestite with boobs and a girly face but who identifies as a man to also break certain molds. But to then make the "mother hen" figure be the female looking man just seems a bit confusing. Also he really looks like a woman, albeit not a very pretty one (trad. speaking of course), to me and not as a girly man and it was then a bit confusing that Mine automatically knew Velmot was a man, how did he know that?
This is in no way a critique, I'm just really interested in your reasons. Because I'm kind of coming up blank for why he then couldn't just be a woman. Or why there seem to have been mothers, but there are no females anywhere in your cast list.

I do love your comic and look forward to seeing the story unfold :)

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June 16th, 2012, 10:19 pm

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first of all, thank you so much for taking your time to write such long comment, i really appreciate this!

yes, i'm aware that this first chapter is a bit... messy and the even the kitty boy's name is still in the dark even though he has been along since page 1, haha. (though you can see that in the character page) i'm planning to redraw the chapter once i think i can. as i've said in the news section, i'm currently in the process of, well, rewriting the rest of the story so let's hope the story gets easier to follow from chapter 2 on!

the lack of female characters is, believe it or not, nothing more than an accident. we'll see the first female main character in chapter 4 and after that there'll actually be only a couple of new females.
velmot has been my character for years and and even though he didn't have those bizarre breast bumps back then he has always been a very, very peculiar character that was from the start supposed to make people confused. so... he's just there to make people scratch their heads and choke on their tongues as they find out what he really is - just what i wanted him to do. turning him into a female woul've just made him a regular long-nosed woman who doesn't make people choke on their own tongues. hahaha
oh, and mine probably knew velmot was a man from his voice: velmot's voice is actually very low - too low for a woman. and though i haven't paid attention on drawing it clearly, he has an adam's apple. and his skirt is so short that maybe mine saw, uh, something else too.
maybe i should try to focus on the female side characters then! i mean there IS more ofians than we've seen till now.

again, thank you very much! the fact that somebody actually wants to tell their opinions and know about my characters and story enough to write a comment the size of my face really makes working on the comic feel worthwhile.

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June 23rd, 2012, 3:24 pm

Flower24

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@Supario: I don't think your first chapter is super messy. The "messyness" is just a side effect of the webcomic format and every webcomic has that.

One of the pitfalls of webcomics is that for the reader it can sometimes be a bit "messy" and disjointed to follow a chapter. But that is because we have to wait between pages. Even if creators have insane daily or bi-weekly or weekly updates, your reading flow is still disrubted. When one buys a graphic novel you buy the first chapter and you can read it all in one go. That way you follow the story at the pace intended and are just left with the inteded questions at the end of the chapter.

So to sum up I really don't think your comic is any messier than other webcomics. Since webcomics (as in graphic novels and not strips) are still a pretty young creation, it is overall still trying to figure out its more natural "format". And that will happen naturally and over time.

Thank you for the explanation about Velmot. While I understand your intention and you did succeed in making me scratch my head ;), I'm not completely convinced Velmot is coming across as a "guy". Because we, the reader, for one cannot hear his deep voice. So really the only indication we had that he was a man, was because Mine refered to Velmot's gay relationship. If that hadn't been in there I would have presumed that your "he"'s refering to Velmot had been typo's. But since the first chapter hasn't finished yet, I feel that this aspect of the comic can still develop further and it might become more obvious (but still in a mindbogling way).
But you definitely made me do a double take and got me thinking, so mission accomplished :)!!!

I really do like this comic and all the characters in it, there interactions are great. I'm looking forward to when the cat & bird boy meet for the first time :)

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June 23rd, 2012, 5:58 pm

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@Flower24: ah, that's great! then let's see if after i've got to the end of the chapter 1 it'll be a bit easier to understand what's happening - as you get to read through the whole chapter at once.

well, now that i look at velmot again, i might've made him a bit too lady-like after all. i mean seriously, what's the point of his rack, haha
... well, as you guessed, i'm planning to make him being a man come across a bit more in the future and hopefully will at some point get it to every readers' head that he is a silly man with... several overly feminine features.

once more, thank you very much for showing your interest in my little project!

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